Searching for solutions to remove Chlorine and Chloramines
Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:00 pm
I'm trying to find a cheap solution to removing Chlorine and Chloramine. And need your help in arriving at a solution based on facts and knowledge posted here
Here goes...
We know that water contains 2 things Chlorine and Chloramine
Branded Products for example (Easy Starter from Azoo) mentions that their Dechlorinators remove ammonia, chloramines, residual chlorine and heavy metals. But the price is 250 bucks for 120 ml. I have been avoiding buying those Rs 10 bottles sold by LFS as dechlorinator and been using sodium thiosulphate crystals to remove chlorine, We dont know how much chlorine is added in the BMC water but most of us use our judgements to adding these crystals to water. I add 4-6 crystals in a 24 L bucket of water while its filling up and this is stored for a week before using it. Assuming this will take out the Chlorine.
Next is Chloramine
Read this on chloramine
http://www.iuhoakland.com/Chloramine.pdf
See Page 2 point 5
It says that Potassium Metabisulfite (aka Campdem Tablets) removes chloramine
Wikipedia also confirms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campden_tablets
But Potassium metabisulfite splits Cloramines into two components Chlorine and Ammonia
Read the coloured post
http://www.mombu.com/aquarium/aquarium/ ... 83589.html
Then I read about AmQuel what it contains and reached Wikipedia...An Aquarium Wiki site
http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Water_conditioners
and it seems that Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate will detoxify both clorine and chloramine completely. This in found in products called AmQuel, ClorAm-X, and Ultimate.
Now if we have to find a solution we will need to have to create a Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate mix with water ie ?grams to mix in ?ml then what will be the dose for our water in the aquariums.
Solution 1
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I came across this recipe online for water bed conditioners
http://www.ehow.com/how_4441156_make-wa ... erbed.html
8 cups distilled water (8 cups = 1.8 ltrs as per Google)
2/3 cup sodium thiosulfate
2/3 cup sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate
After Mixing one of the above the dosing in water is { Edited in Blue : Because Mixing both was not mentioned on the site and I realised that it wont be necessary to use both as point 2 on the site mentioned sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate as another option}
1/4 cup liquid per 100 gallons
The equivalent dosing would be
15.6 ml for 100 Litres
3.9 ml for 25 Litres
1.6 ml for 10 Litres
This seems to be one solution. What do you think ?
Solution 2
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If AmQuel is actually Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate then a dry solution can be used to treat water to remove both chlorine and chloramine.
Read Dry Amquel
http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/aquatic- ... lsize.html
Create a solution using the following calculations
32 grams of Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate to treat 1000 litres
3.2 grams of Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate to treat 100 litres
1.0 gram of Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate to treat 31.3 litres
Now if I want to follow the liquid treatement of AmQuel for example which is 5ml per 10 Gallons (37.8 Litres) then what concentrated solution can be made to achieve this ?
Rajiv will your chemistry professor friend be able to help ?
Thanks
Here goes...
We know that water contains 2 things Chlorine and Chloramine
Branded Products for example (Easy Starter from Azoo) mentions that their Dechlorinators remove ammonia, chloramines, residual chlorine and heavy metals. But the price is 250 bucks for 120 ml. I have been avoiding buying those Rs 10 bottles sold by LFS as dechlorinator and been using sodium thiosulphate crystals to remove chlorine, We dont know how much chlorine is added in the BMC water but most of us use our judgements to adding these crystals to water. I add 4-6 crystals in a 24 L bucket of water while its filling up and this is stored for a week before using it. Assuming this will take out the Chlorine.
Next is Chloramine
Read this on chloramine
http://www.iuhoakland.com/Chloramine.pdf
See Page 2 point 5
It says that Potassium Metabisulfite (aka Campdem Tablets) removes chloramine
Wikipedia also confirms
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campden_tablets
But Potassium metabisulfite splits Cloramines into two components Chlorine and Ammonia
Read the coloured post
http://www.mombu.com/aquarium/aquarium/ ... 83589.html
Then I read about AmQuel what it contains and reached Wikipedia...An Aquarium Wiki site
http://www.theaquariumwiki.com/Water_conditioners
and it seems that Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate will detoxify both clorine and chloramine completely. This in found in products called AmQuel, ClorAm-X, and Ultimate.
Now if we have to find a solution we will need to have to create a Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate mix with water ie ?grams to mix in ?ml then what will be the dose for our water in the aquariums.
Solution 1
-----------
I came across this recipe online for water bed conditioners
http://www.ehow.com/how_4441156_make-wa ... erbed.html
8 cups distilled water (8 cups = 1.8 ltrs as per Google)
2/3 cup sodium thiosulfate
2/3 cup sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate
After Mixing one of the above the dosing in water is { Edited in Blue : Because Mixing both was not mentioned on the site and I realised that it wont be necessary to use both as point 2 on the site mentioned sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate as another option}
1/4 cup liquid per 100 gallons
The equivalent dosing would be
15.6 ml for 100 Litres
3.9 ml for 25 Litres
1.6 ml for 10 Litres
This seems to be one solution. What do you think ?
Solution 2
-----------
If AmQuel is actually Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate then a dry solution can be used to treat water to remove both chlorine and chloramine.
Read Dry Amquel
http://www.who-sells-it.com/cy/aquatic- ... lsize.html
Create a solution using the following calculations
32 grams of Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate to treat 1000 litres
3.2 grams of Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate to treat 100 litres
1.0 gram of Sodium hydroxymethanesulfonate to treat 31.3 litres
Now if I want to follow the liquid treatement of AmQuel for example which is 5ml per 10 Gallons (37.8 Litres) then what concentrated solution can be made to achieve this ?
Rajiv will your chemistry professor friend be able to help ?
Thanks