Badis badis breeding journal

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Badis badis breeding journal

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Yesterday clicked pics of an awesome juvi that represented the monster badis (his dad), which I have been keeping since close to 2 years now, and thought of completing this journal which was due since a long time...

Now to the point - Preferably give them their own tank, choosing the best male that you have for this purpose. What I have seen is that the alpha male will not allow others to breed no matter how big the tank is, the alpha male that I have even raids pots of other males and eats up any eggs laid there.

The alpha male - (has fathered 100s of kids till date and is my prized possession...:) )
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His favorite female
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What I have found is that they prefer slightly acidic waters. They have even bred in neutral waters but the breeding was consistent in acidic waters.
Water parameters in the breeding tank are:
Hardness: ard 100-120ppm
Temp: raise to 26DC then do a water change of 30-40%, targeting 24DC afterwards
pH: ard 6.5

Feeding - They anyway eat live food so provide a lot of live food like romifex, grindals, small snails (they eat small pest snails as well, in fact I use them as snail control mechanism in my planted) 2-3 times a day...

They are cave spawners. The male will select a pot and try to lure a female into his potential nesting site, where the female will lay any where between 25-80 eggs. Afterwards the female is driven away and the male will take care of the eggs. He will fan them to avoid the eggs being infested by fungus till they hatch.
The male protecting his nesting site
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The eggs normally hatch within 2-3 days. The male will take care of the fry till they are free swimming. It is best to remove the male at this time as he might consider them food and eat them.
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The fries are really small to even accept microworms so feed them infusoria for 5-6 days after they become free swimming. They will start accepting microworms after that.
A free swimming fry
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Around 2.5mths old fries
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The juvi resembling his dad (clicked yest) ard 3.5 mths old
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As a person who had the honour to keep the alpha male for around 9 moths of this 2-year period he has been in the NCR region, i can vouch for his magnificence :)

And i agree, this young fellow seems to be a chip off the old block. congrates on having got two Alpha males now, vijjy, and that too, in the best possible way. ..... sigh !

Super thread.

And probably the only one we have at present on the internet that is Indian. It is sad that the Badis genus (including dario dario) so admired in Germany and elswhere, has so few Indians who are capable of keeping Badis well. They do not show colour as much if they are not well fed. I must mention that when i was in college in Jammu (MAM College, once called Prince of Wales College), i had found a book in the library that was printed in 1930. It was written by an Englishman who had written an entire chapter on the breeding and upkeep of these beautiful cichlid-like creatures native to India. ... I hope the interest in them these days will help save them from disappearance, which is not far behind if deforestation and corruption continues at this rate..
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Am really glad to find out that you have dedicated to breed natives, very few do that as mentioned by Romi. Great work, your effort is showing through with the healthy lot of juveniles.

The new generation should be much more adaptable than their parents.
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Can you prepare 4-5 pellate eating food for me.
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Hats off to you vijs :)
Finally i am Broke but Happy :D
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SCORPIO wrote:Can you prepare 4-5 pellate eating food for me.
Yes Vijendra,

only If you could get the tank reared ones eat prepared fish food, it would be a milestone as then a lot of aquarists would be able to keep this fish.
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Vijendra just lovely :)

Delhi-NCR is lucky to have you there :)
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Romi wrote:And i agree, this young fellow seems to be a chip off the old block. congrates on having got two Alpha males now, vijjy, and that too, in the best possible way. ..... sigh !
This guy (the juvi) is the biggest and the most brightly colored one of the lot, what I think is that he will even outgrow his dad who is 1.5times bigger than the rest of the badis males that I have...:)
and yes it is the same papa badis who was with you for ard 9mths...:)
hamza wrote:Am really glad to find out that you have dedicated to breed natives, very few do that as mentioned by Romi. Great work, your effort is showing through with the healthy lot of juveniles.

The new generation should be much more adaptable than their parents.
Thanks...:),
I guess people are not interested in breeding natives as many species are easily available in the markets. If you go to galiff street in kolkata you will get beauties like this for as less as INR10, maybe for even less, but what about 5-6 years down the line considering the rate at which their habitat is being destroyed...
Mostly all the fish sold in the Indian market are wild caught..
Our natives are in high demand outside India, My brother who stays in London was telling me that he saw Oryzias dancena being sold for 10 pounds (GBP) a piece...
SCORPIO wrote:Can you prepare 4-5 pellate eating food for me.
The juvis are more stubborn than their parents. I feed the parents frozen food as well along with live but the juvis have not shown interest in frozen food as of now, maybe I have spoilt them by feeding live 2-3 times a day....:), but will surely try
jack wrote:Hats off to you vijs :)
Thanks...:)
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SCORPIO wrote:Can you prepare 4-5 pellate eating food for me.
Yes Vijendra,

only If you could get the tank reared ones eat prepared fish food, it would be a milestone as then a lot of aquarists would be able to keep this fish.
Will try, but I still beleive that rather than changing the behaviour of the fish it is us who should change and start keeping and feeding live food, especially now when it is easily available thanks to guys like Romi, Aamir and you...:)
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Abhishek wrote:Vijendra just lovely :)

Delhi-NCR is lucky to have you there :)
Thanks Abhishek...:)
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congrats man, this is excellent post. I have badis lafraguri, but no luck on the breeding :), now with your parameter, i will start checking it. :)
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